Here anon. Shooter fixed it for you;

"You can blame the IL state police for that... But what do you expect from the police in a liberal Democrat run state like Illinois???? Like I have said many time on this forum, if you want to reduce crime, start enforcing the current gun laws on the books..."​

 

So you don't think semi automatic rifles should be banned?

 

"we"???? Who besides yourself are you speaking for general?

 

No its the guns. Nothing exists in the US that does not also exist in other developed countries including "animals." But we are the only country that constantly has random mass shootings because we are the only country that sells assault weapons and extended magazines to anyone including the mentally ill/

All of us who do not support random mass shootings just to keep profits for the gun makers as high as possible.

 

Hmp.. a 'police problem'?

Try this on for size....

Authorities arrest 2 illegal immigrants for allegedly plotting mass shooting
Authorities arrested two illegal migrants suspected of plotting a mass shooting in Virginia. On Wednesday, police in Richmond announced they had apprehended Julio Alvarado-Dubon and Rolman Balcercel after receiving a tip they were planning a mass shooting during a Fourth of July celebration.

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Illinois governor notes signs of ‘white supremacy symbol’ in parade suspect’s background

Julia Mueller
Sun, July 10, 2022 at 11:41 AM



Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker on Sunday noted signs of a “white supremacy symbol” that authorities uncovered about the shooting suspect who killed seven and wounded dozens at a Fourth of July parade in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park last week.

Pritzker told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union” that despite the link, there was not yet clear evidence of the shooter’s motive.

“There were signs of this white supremacy symbol, that there is evidence obviously of someone who is, was looking to cause harm to people. We don’t exactly know whether it is focused on one particular group or another,” Pritzker said, but noted that parade attendees included many people who were Jewish and large contingents of Latino families.

Police revealed last week that the suspect, Robert E. Crimo Jr., threatened to “kill everyone” at his home in 2019 leading police to confiscate knives he had collected. But the incident wasn’t enough to trigger the state’s red flag laws, because the shooter’s father claimed ownership of the knives.


“There were warning signs, there’s no doubt about it. But nothing that reached the, you know, probable cause or preponderance of the evidence required for there to be a red flag,” Pritzker said.

Family members would’ve needed to come forward, Pritzker said. “They didn’t.”

Pritzker said he believed it was possible Crimo’s father could be held civilly liable but that no final conclusion had been reached by the local district attorney.

Pritzker said on Sunday he would be in favor of updating the state’s red flag law but that family members also need to cooperate with authorities.

“Ban assault weapons, not just in the state of Illinois, but nationally,” Pritzker said, adding that high capacity magazines and weapons like the one used by the shooter should be kept out of civilians’ hands.

“There’s no reason why someone should have 90 bullets at the ready, 30 in each of the cartridges that he used. That’s just something that I don’t think civilians should have.”


https://www.yahoo.com/news/illinois-governor-notes-signs-white-174135745.html

 

Supreme Court makes it harder for states to restrict guns
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/23/texas-supreme-court-guns/

 

Fatherless Homes Linked to Mental Illness and Mass Shootings: Author Warren Farrell
Last updated Jul 9, 2022

Warren Farrell, author of ‘The Boy Crisis: Why Our Boys Are Struggling and What We Can Do About It’, found that being ‘deprived of one’s father’ is a major factor in increasing illness mental illness, addiction and suicide among men.

He links mass shootings in 53 developed countries to boys and men who lacked a father figure, and he specifically mentioned six mass shootings that occurred in the United States in the 21st century.

“The six mass school shootings that killed more than 10 people were perpetrated by boys, and all six were perpetrated by boys who were ‘deprived of their father’, from Sandy Hook to the shooting in Texas,” Farrell said in a recent interview for EpochTV’s “American Thought Leaders.”

Farrell was referring to the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, and the May 24, 2022 shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.

He said girls grow up in the same environment as boys, with access to the same media, video games and guns and facing the same mental health issues, but they don’t commit any of the shootings.

Farrell has made it his mission to educate lawmakers about the importance of fathers in the lives of children, especially young boys. His efforts have resulted in the enactment of laws in Florida and Kentucky that recognize the crucial role of the father, especially in divorce cases.

According to United States Census Bureaua single mother living with her child(ren) is the second most common living arrangement in the United States, a number that has doubled in the past 50 years.

In 2020, 21% of children, or about 15.3 million, lived only with their mother, up from 11%, or 7.6 million, in 1968.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis speaks during a press conference held at the Cox Science Center & Aquarium in West Palm Beach, Fla. on June 8, 2022. (Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

Modern feminist ideology hurts boys
Farrell said boys suffer because they are told their masculinity is wrong.

“The world was not dominated by a patriarchy. It was dominated by the need to survive, and in order to survive, men and women were limited in their roles,” Farrell said, adding that feminism blames men for societal problems and ignores the sacrifices people make. they do for their families. .

“We constantly give boys a negative image of themselves that leads to low self-esteem, which leads to them needing compensation,” he said.

Farrell said while trying to do good, he also blames himself for being a member of the NOW board for three years, where these harmful feminist ideas that hurt boys, and ultimately girls, spread. .

Farrell started his work for equal rights for women because he believed in the creed “I am a woman, I am strong”, but now he says he does not support feminism because the feminist movement has become “I am a woman, I have been wronged.

This type of thinking hurts boys, he said, and it needs to change so that both boys and girls can benefit from a father’s full contribution to their lives.

 

The Crisis of Fatherless Shooters
Mar 14th, 2018

There is a sobering theme repeated over and over in the biographies of school shooters—the fatherlessness of a broken or never formed family.

Among the 25 most-cited school shooters since Columbine, 75 percent were reared in broken homes. Psychologist Dr. Peter Langman, a pre-eminent expert on school shooters, found that most came from incredibly broken homes of not just divorce and separation, but also infidelity, substance abuse, criminal behavior, domestic violence, and child abuse.

After the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, scholar Brad Wilcox called attention to the work of criminologists Michael Gottfredson and Travis Hirschi, which found the absence of fathers to be one of the “most powerful predictors of crimes .” He explained that fathers are role models for their sons who maintain authority and discipline, thereby helping them develop self-control and empathy toward others, key character traits lacking in violent youth.

The late rapper Tupac Shakur said, “I know for a fact that had I had a father, I’d have some discipline. I’d have more confidence. Your mother can’t calm you down the way a man can. You need a man to teach you how to be a man.” Shakur, who was murdered in 1996, started hanging out with gangs because he wanted to belong to a family.

In addition to structure and discipline, a boy’s relationship with his father can be a profound source of identity—or not. Dr. Warren Farrell, author of the “The Boy Crisis,” says that when a boy asks “Who am I?” the answer is that his identity is comprised of half his dad and half his mom. If he thinks his father has abandoned him, he fears he is not. Boys who do not have a strong relationship with their fathers may lack a model of healthy masculinity. Many of the school shooters struggled with a sense of “damaged masculinity” and sought to become “ultramasculine.” Langman says that at the end of this spectrum is “getting a gun to suddenly have power.”

In fact, the fathers of three of the most infamous school shooters were absent from their sons’ lives. The father of Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook shooter, had not seen his son in two years and later told reporters he wished his son had never been born. The adoptive father of Nikolas Cruz died when Cruz was 5 years old. And the father of 6-year-old Dedrick Owens, the country’s youngest school shooter, was in jail when his son killed his first grade classmate. Dedrick Owens’ father has said that he suspects his son’s crime was a reaction to his absence.

Since the 1965 Moynihan report, the breakdown of the American family has been hotly debated. Democratic Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s finding that fatherlessness would lead to poorer outcomes for African-American children was published at a time when only 25 percent of African-American households were led by a single parent. Today, 24 percent of white non-Hispanic families are headed by a single parent and the rate has reached 66 percent among African-Americans. If we don’t reverse current trends on marriage, the number of fatherless children will only grow.

Ultimately, if we make fatherlessness and family breakdown a partisan issue, we all lose. Both Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush promoted a National Fatherhood Initiative in their administrations. Because strong marriages promote strong bonds between fathers and their children, the Trump administration should emphasize both.

A good starting place would be to reduce the marriage penalties that have been built into our welfare system. A next step would be to elevate the contributions of ordinary men doing the extraordinary work of fathering. And if we directed 1 percent of the attention and media coverage we give to athletes, musicians, and movie stars toward fathers, perhaps more boys would grow up seeing them as role models. President Donald Trump, his Cabinet, Congress, and other leaders can also use their bully pulpits to lead in this direction.


And the good news is that communities are devising creative ways to help make up for the absences of dads. One example is in Dallas, where Billy Earl Dade Middle School held its annual “Breakfast with Dads.” To ensure that all 150 male students who wanted a mentor would have one, an organizer put out a request on a Facebook page for 50 “volunteer fathers.” Nearly 600 men from all different walks of life and careers answered the call.

We cannot provide every fatherless boy with a dad, but we can start by respecting the unique role that fathers play in the lives of boys and encouraging more men to step into the lives of children who need a male role model.

To understand the brokenness of our children, Americans must take a deeper look at the brokenness of our families. We must do this together. We must be the keepers of all our country’s sons so that they can grow up to be one another’s. If we are going to prevent the next Parkland, we need to take seriously the need all our young boys and men have for a dad.

This piece originally appeared in the Daily Signal

 

And what well regulated militia are you a part of?

 

Shooter alerts and raises his .......... paw

OOH! OOH! Shooter knows!
The Merican militia!

 

Apparently there is a man that texted a threat to "make Texas and highland park look like child's play"... Wonder when the cries of "thought police" will start, calling for his release.

 

Well, Shooters fingers are not broken.
Were you making some kind of threat?
Does Shooter need to get security?
Go into hiding?
Why are you trying to intimidate Shooter?

 

All these analysis miss both the real problem and solution. Most mass shooters are also INCELS. They don't have or can 't keep girl friends and being fuckless drives them crazy. So the obvious solution is for conservative women to start putting out random mercy fucks. You can 't expect liberal women to do that. They are too busy fucking the rest of us.

Most these mass shooters and unfortunately far too many gun owners actually see their assault weapons as an extension of their penis and really want to ejaculate a few hundred bullets into innocent people.

How to combat the forces that turn young men into mass shooters


Mike Bebernes
·Senior Editor
Mon, July 11, 2022 at 2:02 PM·6 min read




“The 360” shows you diverse perspectives on the day’s top stories and debates.



What’s happening
Mass shootings are nothing new in the U.S., but there’s been a recent remarkable shift in the profile of the men committing them: They’re getting younger.

Of the 30 deadliest shootings between 1949 and 2017, only two involved gunmen under the age of 21, according to research cited by the New York Times. In just the past two months, however, there have been three major attacks — in Buffalo, N.Y., Uvalde, Texas, and Highland Park, Ill. — in which the accused shooters were men between the ages of 18 and 21. In Parkland, Fla., the attacker was 19. In Santa Fe, Texas, he was 17. In El Paso, he was 21.

These recent shooters also tend to share some other characteristics, other than the AR-style rifles that are used in nearly every attack. They are often described as disconnected from those around them and frequently spend a lot of their time in online spaces populated by similarly disassociated youth. In some cases, as in Buffalo and El Paso, the shooters were allegedly motivated by extreme racist views that echoed or directly cited the writings of previous mass murderers. In others, like Uvalde, the killers appear to hold a more generalized anger about their place in the world.

Why there’s debate
While most experts say comprehensive gun control is still the best solution to mass shootings, they argue that there are a number of ways to counter the forces that push young men toward violence in the first place.

As common as it is to describe mass shooters as “monsters,” some psychologists say this view undermines efforts to understand the root causes of extreme violence. Research shows that shooters frequently are going through some sort emotional crisis and are sometimes even suicidal prior to their attacks — feelings often rooted in past trauma. Experts say this shows the need for a major expansion of mental health access specifically designed for young men. Many also advocate for crisis intervention strategies targeted at those who show troubling signs they may pose an imminent danger to themselves or others.

Others say new mental health efforts must be complimented by a campaign to root out the extreme ideologies that radicalize young men into killers. They argue that that will require cracking down on fringe internet forums where racism and misogyny run rampant, as well as holding mainstream social media companies accountable for their failure to keep extremism off their platforms.

Some add that the media can play a role as well. They say many recent mass shooters are motivated by a desire for notoriety, a goal news outlets often help them achieve by drawing intense attention to their personal biographies and sharing details of the so-called manifestos they sometimes post online before they attack. Ending those practices, critics say, could decrease the chances that one killer may inspire another through their actions.

What’s next
The bipartisan gun control bill signed by President Biden last month contained some measures that could help address this problem in the coming years, including funds to expand mental health access, enhanced background checks for young gun buyers and financial incentives for states to create so-called red flag laws that permit authorities to takes someone’s gun away if they’re ruled to be an imminent threat.

Perspectives
The prevention of mass shootings starts with recognizing the reasons people commit them
“People tend to think the people who do this, they’re just evil and they’re insane. But that really prevents us from being able to engage in the type of prevention work we need to do. We need to be able to recognize that people in our lives can go down this pathway.” — Jillian Peterson, gun violence researcher, to the Boston Globe

More needs to be done to block access to extremist online communities

“The internet and, apparently, assault rifles clearly aren’t going anywhere. As long as they exist, we should call into question how platforms like Discord, Twitch, Reddit, and 4chan have become breeding grounds for teenage boys to become indoctrinated into white supremacy and violent misogyny, and to boast about, amplify, and even livestream violent acts.” — Kylie Cheung, Jezebel

Racism, both online and in the real world, inspires some of the deadliest shootings

“The racism of these young White men can no longer be dismissed as an Internet phenomenon, a joke, or a phase: It’s criminal behavior, a near unchallenged radicalization pathway for domestic terrorism, and a threat to national security.” — Chukwudi Ilozue, Harvard Political Review

Young men and boys need more access to programs to help them deal with past trauma

“An overwhelming majority of mass murderers have a significant history of early trauma and violence, which likely influenced their proclivity toward violence. And in all instances, early signals that the perpetrators were severely distressed, angry, and socially isolated were either missed or ignored and effective interventions were not offered.” — Anthony Biglan, Diana Fishbein and Michael B. Greene, The Hill

Threat assessment strategies will allow intervention in the most extreme cases

“Threat management doesn't focus on any particular ideology such as Islamism or White nationalism, but rather on the actions of suspects who often follow a predictable ‘pathway to violence.’ That pathway begins from nursing a grievance, such as believing in the Great Replacement conspiracy theory, and can eventually end up with a militant taking violent action.

This is a sound approach, since holding radical ideas in the United States is not a crime.” — Peter Bergen, CNN

Authorities need more power to intervene when warning signs arise

“Society may have to adapt by rethinking our hands-off attitudes to antisocial behavior and mental illness. Security at schools and churches will need to be enhanced. Big Data may help law enforcement identify potential risks, and we may need to give them freer rein to intervene in borderline cases. A return to more social sanction and intervention for antisocial behavior would also help the vulnerable and lost who most need help.” — Editorial, Wall Street Journal

We need stronger families and community support for boys

“Children need fathers, and they need to be a part of a community that will protect and care for them and, most importantly, hold them accountable — whether that’s a church, a soccer team, or a close-knit neighborhood. They need to be surrounded by adults who will teach them the importance of individual responsibility and who will step in when necessary. ” — Kaylee McGhee White, Washington Examiner

The scourge of angry young men needs to be treated as the crisis it is

“We have to conquer this. America needs a concerted effort, a multi-pronged task force of specialists whose only job is to study this sickness, as unique as a novel virus, and find a way, if not to eradicate it, to contain and prevent it.” — Maureen Callahan, New York Post

Cultural ideas about masculinity predispose young men to violence

“Monsters are not born, they are created. … While there are many root causes to this complex issue, to my mind, the most crucial element are toxic masculinity ideologies that create toxic masculinity men.” — Reagan Ross, Common Dreams

A more equitable, supportive society would create fewer mass shooters
“The pathway to a young man becoming a killer involves schools ill-equipped to deal with children’s mental health needs, along with easy access to lethal weapons. It consists of boys being told not to seek help even when they need it. It is often the result of families with economic hardship, frequently compounded by substance use, and the lack of publicly provided social services.” — Gary Barker, New York Daily News

https://www.yahoo.com/news/how-to-c...n-young-men-into-mass-shooters-200251351.html

 

Only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun you say? Then why did these good guys with guns stand outside a classroom for 77 minutes while a shooter continued to kill kids and others just bled out? But oh wait a good fourth grade teacher with a gun was supposed to stop him right?

Shocking New Video Shows Uvalde Police Do Absolutely Nothing for 77 Minutes During Massacre
By Kipp JonesJul 12th, 2022, 6:32 pm
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Shocking surveillance video released Tuesday from May’s massacre at a school in Uvalde, Texas shows the gunman entering the building and then a classroom where he began firing his AR-15 at children — whose screams are edited out of the video published by the media. Later, the video shows officers huddled outside in the hallway and doing nothing for over an hour as the gunman remains in a classroom.

The Austin American-Statesman obtained a 77-minute recording captured from the school’s surveillance, which it then edited into a 4-minute clip that has had some audio scrubbed. The paper removed the graphic screams and sounds from the children, nineteen of whom died, along with two teachers.


Footage shared by CNN Tuesday evening removed the sounds of gunshots from the May 24th mass killing at Robb Elementary School.

The footage begins with the gunman crashing his vehicle in front of the school. It then cuts to inside the school, which shows him entering with a rifle.

He fired into the building through classroom windows before the entry. Within three minutes, armed officers were outside the classroom where a massacre was taking place.

At one point in the footage, the gunman shoots at a number of officers, and they each retreat.

One police officer is seen utilizing a school hand sanitizer station as the killings were taking place down the hall. Another was captured by a security camera checking his phone.

Dozens of cops with guns drawn amassed in the hallway, but none attempted to stop what was occurring feet away.

Finally, once officers show up equipped with ballistic shields and rifles, police can be seen breaching the classroom where the suspect was barricaded. They killed him after opening an unlocked door.


The massacre went on for more than an hour.

The American–Statesman reported:

The video tells in real time the brutal story of how heavily armed officers failed to immediately launch a cohesive and aggressive response to stop the shooter and save more children if possible. And it reinforces the trauma of those parents, friends and bystanders who were outside the school and pleaded with police to do something, and for those survivors who quietly called 911 from inside the classroom to beg for help.

Watch above, via CNN.


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/shockin...utely-nothing-for-77-minutes-during-massacre/

 

So what's going to happen to the Police officer in charge? Is he still in charge and getting his nice fat salary? In the UK we do not arm all Police we have armed response teams that arrive with all the necessary equipment in there vehicle. Is it a case that to save money they only have a few sets of equipment kept at a Police station? If so it's the local politicians have some of the blame as well.

 

Yes the chief of police of the school district is still on the job and collecting his pay. So are all the other officers involved with the exception of one who got fired for being drunk on the job.

And far from being unequipped if you look at the video the police look more like military than police. And they not only had military grade equipment they had also recently done mass shooter training. But even though they had their own assault weapons and shields the shooter also had an assault weapon and they were afraid to go up against it. So they just stood around for more than an hour while the shooter continued to shoot kids and others were wounded and bleeding out.


This is also common with school shootings. The cops just stood around at the Columbine school shooting while the shooters continued to kill. That was supposed to be stopped with a national standard supposedly being if their is a school shooting the police are supposed to go in with whatever they have and confront the shooter. But then the police just stood around at the Parkland school shooting. And then just stood around again at the Uvalde school shooting.

Which exposes the deadly hypocrisy of treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans who say that instead of implementing any gun controls that would help prevent mass shootings the answer is to arm school teachers. When the reality is police with assault weapons are afraid to go up against a shooter with an assault weapon but elementary school teachers are expected to stop them with a handgun and next to no training.

And the insanity of that is also exposed when school shootings are only one type of mass shootings. We just had another one on the 4th of July where a shooter with assault weapons and extended magazines fired more than 70 shots in a matter of minutes on a parade. Nothing treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans are proposing would help one bit in shootings like that.

So they try multiple other deflections and misinformation and outright lies to keep from admitting what is just deadly obvious. It is the assault weapons and extended magazines sold to anyone who just walks in 0ff the street.

 

More proof that treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans are actually pro mass shootings. Now they don't even want to warn Americans about mass shootings because that is bad for the business of selling assault weapons and extended magazines.

They insist innocent children must continue to be sacrificed every day at the alter of the gun.

Watch: Matt Gaetz warns if active shooter alert bill passes Americans will be ‘bombarded’ with alerts 24/7

David Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement
July 14, 2022



Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) (Photo: Gage Skidmore)

Admitting there are a large number of shootings every day around the clock U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) took to the floor of the House of Representatives Wednesday to complain if Democratic-supported legislation to establish an active shooter alert system becomes law Americans will be "bombarded" with the alerts 24/7.

"One has to ask, 'What is the true purpose of this bill?" an animated Congressman Gaetz said. "Why do the Democrats want to use the power of government to bombard your cell phone with active shooter alerts 24 hours a day, seven days a week?"

The legislation would create an active shooter alert system that would function locally, similar to how Amber Alert systems operate.

"It's because they want you to be afraid of the Second Amendment," Gaetz claimed, responding to his own question.

"It's because they want you to be afraid of responsible gun ownership. And they hope that if they program you and bombard you long enough that you'll hate your own Second Amendment rights, or that you may tattle on your neighbor who is lawfully and rightfully exercising theirs."

Alerting Americans to an active shooter situation in their neighborhood has nothing to do with responsible gun owners, but it has the potential to save lives.

"Each day 12 children die from gun violence in America. Another 32 are shot and injured," the Sandy Hook Promise, a gun safety organization states. "Guns are the leading cause of death among American children and teens. 1 out of 10 gun deaths are age 19 or younger."

Since the start of this year there have been 23,518 gun-related deaths across the United States, and another 20,360 people injured, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

Watch below or at this link:

https://www.rawstory.com/watch-matt...americans-will-be-bombarded-with-alerts-24-7/

 

All treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans do is lie and they will lie about anything including the slaughter of innocent little school children.


Uvalde Officials Pushed Narrative of ‘Hero’ Cops With ‘Zero Hesitation’ in School Massacre

Amid mounting scrutiny of the police response to the Robb Elementary School massacre in early June, Uvalde city officials tried to convince state leaders to go along with a narrative about local cops displaying “zero hesitation” and acting as “heroes,” according to the San Antonio Express News. Remarks presented to Col. Steven McCraw, the director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, and District Attorney Christina Mitchell Busbee at a June 2 meeting reportedly included the claim that “each minute [of the police response] was used to save lives of children and teachers.” Singling out the school district police chief, Pete Arredondo, and several Uvalde Police Department officers, the proposed narrative also said, “There was zero hesitation on any of these officers’ part, they moved directly towards the gunfire,” according to the Express-News.

Busbee told the newspaper she had “objected” to the proposed remarks because investigators didn’t yet know if that was a “true assessment.” Surveillance footage from inside the school leaked last week showed dozens of heavily armed law enforcement officers standing around in a hallway while the gunman was barricaded with young kids inside a classroom. It took more than an hour for the gunman to finally be shot by a Border Patrol agent, and by that time 19 kids and two teachers were dead.

Read it at San Antonio Express News

https://www.thedailybeast.com/uvald...h-zero-hesitation-in-school-massacre?ref=home